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Thank you T!M. Updating the list:
Joyce Hyser: 17 credits, 8 confirmed Art of Revenge aka Sweet Vengeance The Flash: The Complete Series (1990-91) (confirmed by me) Greedy (confirmed by T!M) Just One of the Guys (confirmed by me) LA Law: Season 3 LA Law: Season 4 Melrose Place: Season 1 Murder She Wrote: Season 11 (confirmed by huskersports) Pacific Blue: Season 4 (confirmed by huskersports) Pure 80s: The DVD: I Can Dream About You Staying Alive Teddy Bears' Picnic (confirmed by T!M) They All Laughed (confirmed by T!M) This is Spinal Tap (confirmed by me) Viper; Season 1 The Wedding Pact Y2K aka Countdown to Chaos
Joyce Heiser: 2 credits, 2 confirmed The Hollywood Knights (confirmed by huskersports) Valley Girl (confirmed by me)
Joyce Hyser Robinson: 1 credit, 1 confirmed CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: Season 12 (confirmed by huskersports) | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 318 |
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Thank you Kluge. List updated.
On another note. IMDB claims that for 20 Million Miles to Earth he's uncredited as the Narrator. So if he's not in the credits for that one, the Narrator voice should be listed to to determine if he should still be listed with that movie as an uncredited role or if he should be deleted. | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 366 |
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Thank you marcelb7. List updated. | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 366 |
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Common Name William Woodson / Bill Woodson
Note: Super Friends titles below are considered to be different seasons (even the Lost Episodes), hence their being separated out.
William Woodson: 45 listings (44 from Credit Lookup plus 1 moved over, 10 confirmed) 20 Million Miles to Earth [only appears in Credit Lookup for foreign language version] The All New Super Friends Hour: Season One [confirmed by me] Battle of the Planets Bewitched: Season 1 Bewitched: Season 2 (note: only appears in Credit Lookup for seasons 2-4 in foreign language versions) Bewitched: Season 3 Bewitched: Season 4 The Bonfire of the Vanities Challenge of the Super Friends [note: only listed for the earlier discs, not complete series and specific episodes not noted; I tried a couple random episodes of the latter and did not find him listed] Countdown to Christmas Duckman: Season 2 [confirmed by marcelb7] Earth vs. The Flying Saucers Escape from the Planet of the Apes [confirmed by Kluge] F Troop: Season 1 Family Guy: Season 9 Fear Strikes Out The Fugitive: Season 3 Garfield and Friends: Volume Three The Garment Jungle The Greatest American Hero: Season 1 [confirmed by me] The Invaders The Jetsons: Season 1 Leave it to Beaver: Season 6 The Lucy Show: Season 2 The Lucy Show: Season 5 The Mary Tyler Moore Show: Season 2 Mickey's Christmas Carol More Dead Than Alive aka Killer Cain The Naked Gun 2½: The Smell of Fear [confirmed by marcelb7] The One and Only, Genuine, Original Family Band Perry Mason: Season 5 Volume 2 Perry Mason: Season 6 Volume 2 Perry Mason: Season 8 Volume 1 Perry Mason: Season 9 Volume 1 The Richie Rich - Scooby-Doo Show - Volume One Route 66: Season 1 Scooby-Doo! Winter WonderDog The Small One (found on Walt Disney's Classic Cartoon Favorites: Volume 9: Classic Holiday Stories) Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends: Season 1 [confirmed by me] Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends: Season 2 [confirmed by me] Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends: Season 3 [confirmed by me] Super Friends: The Lost Episodes [confirmed by me; Credit Lookup incorrectly says Bill Woodson] Tiny Toon Adventures: Season 1 Tunnel Vision War and Remembrance The Winds of War
Bill Woodson 10 listings, originally 11, 8 confirmed Godzilla: The Original Animated Series [confirmed by me] Monchichis (found on Saturday Morning Cartoons: 1980s) [confirmed by me] Scooby-Doo! Laff-A-Lympics: Spooky Games Spider-Man (1982 series) (found on Captain America vs The Red Skull: Limited Edition, Fantastic Four Vs. Dr. Doom: Limited Edition, and Spider-Man Vs. The Vulture: Limited Edition) [confirmed by me] Super Friends! A Dangerous Fate [confirmed by me] Super Friends! Legacy of Super Powers [confirmed by me] Super Friends: The Legendary Super Powers Show [confirmed by me] The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians [confirmed by me] The World's Greatest Super Friends! [confirmed by me] Yogi Bear and the Magical Flight of the Spruce Goose Incorrect Super Friends: The Lost Episodes [actual credit William Woodson; confirmed by me] | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 366 |
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Thank you for catching Joyce Heiser, huskersports. Added Valley Girl as she's also credited as such there. | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 318 |
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I'm just going to come right out and say that Joyce Hyser is the common name, but let's do this anyway as a formality:
Joyce Hyser: 17 credits, 14 unconfirmed Art of Revenge aka Sweet Vengeance The Flash: The Complete Series (1990-91) (confirmed by me) Greedy Just One of the Guys (confirmed by me) LA Law: Season 3 LA Law: Season 4 Melrose Place: Season 1 Murder She Wrote: Season 11 (confirmed by huskersports) Pacific Blue: Season 4 (confirmed by huskersports) Pure 80s: The DVD: I Can Dream About You Staying Alive Teddy Bears' Picnic They All Laughed This is Spinal Tap (confirmed by me) Viper; Season 1 The Wedding Pact Y2K aka Countdown to Chaos
Joyce Heiser: 2 credits, 2 confirmed The Hollywood Knights (confirmed by huskersports) Valley Girl (confirmed by me)
Joyce Hyser Robinson: 1 credit, 1 confirmed CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: Season 12 (confirmed by huskersports) | Posted: Topic Replies: 4, Topic Views: 318 |
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Yeah, I probably shouldn't have used the rank example. It derailed my point which was that I couldn't find any common name rule in the Credits section of the rules. Could someone point me to where the rule is spelled out explicitly? I get that there's this passage:
"It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT. If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary. However, in most cases it is not required."
But I'm asking if it's stated more explicitly somewhere else. The above seems implicit rather than explicit, though i get with Ken Code being mostly absent nowadays we have to work with what we've got.
I mainly ask because I'm on the spectrum and have OCD. Since people keep referring to a common name rule I keep wondering if I'm overlooking some passage. | Posted: Topic Replies: 10, Topic Views: 1636 |
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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote: For database purposes, you just follow the rules. Nothing else matters.
Which is one reason I raised the question. The rules aren't explicit that you attach a cast or crew member to their common name. For Credits, this is the only reference to common name:
"It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT. If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary. However, in most cases it is not required."
That would certainly seem to favour the common name but the rules don't explicitly say you have to default to it. In fact the rules provide a scenario where using the common name would not be permitted:
"Military rank/affiliation or other honorifics should be included in the 'Credited As' field. Example: a credit of "Cpl. John Smith, USMC" should be entered as First Name: "John", Last Name "Smith", Credited As "Cpl. John Smith, USMC""
Let's say hypothetically that Cpl. John Smith, USMC was an actor's common name. You would nevertheless list them as John Smith.
Don't get me wrong: I lean towards the common name in this instance myself. I'm just pointing out that it's not an explicit rule and more something unofficial that pretty much everyone agrees on. So I wanted to hear people's thoughts on whether anyone thought this should be an exception since the rules don't explicitly answer that.
Regardless, if we're going with the common name, then Page needs to be added to the list of confirmed common names. So another reason I created this thread was to flag that in the event that things went that way, which seemed probable. | Posted: Topic Replies: 10, Topic Views: 1636 |
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We all know what Elliot Page's common name is. I don't think we need to list all the titles. Where things get tricky is that the transgender community strongly opposes any use of dead names. I don't agree where it comes to the issue of notability; for better or worse he has greater notability under his dead name (rhymes with Helen if you don't keep up with celebrity news) than his preferred name. But since his is credited for both seasons of Umbrella Academy as Elliot and everywhere else under the dead name, how do we best address this? The convention is to go with the common name, but since this if I understand right is more a preference on this site rather than a hard and fast rule, do we want to respect what his wishes seem to be for this sort of thing?
And please let's not go into one's personal opinions on gender dysphoria and focus solely on the naming aspect. | Posted: Topic Replies: 10, Topic Views: 1636 |
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The issue I see with Featuring et al is that they tend to be sub-sections in the opening credits but not in the closing credits even though the same actor is listed in both. In contrast people under Soldiers, etc. generally don't even make the opening credits, so it's less likely for cast member to be in a sub-section at the start of the movie/show but not at the end. That said, it's a relatively minor issue so if someone put them in, I wouldn't get into an edit war over it. | Posted: Topic Replies: 5, Topic Views: 3115 |
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Confusing matters further is that sometimes which letters are capitalized is clearly an artistic choice that shouldn't be changed, e.g. eXistenz. Making the first e capital would distract from the filmmakers clearly wanting the X to stand out. | Posted: Topic Replies: 3, Topic Views: 4212 |
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