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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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I have a movie where an actor is credited as playing "Griffin's Voice" - how do I enter that? As it is (as credited), or do I enter the role as "Griffin" and tick the voice-box?

I'm mostly inclined to the latter, but is it still then "as credited"?
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Credit as Griffin's Voice and tick the voice box.
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Agree.  Give them the credit as it appears on the screen and check voice box.
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So it appears in the list as "Griffin's Voice (voice)"? That was kind of what I was hoping to avoid, as it is double information and it doesn't look that good...
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just enter Griffin as role and thick the voice box
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If the credits are not from an animated film he should be listed as Griffin's Voice.
According to the rules the "Voice" checkbox should only be used for animated films.

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If the credits are not from an animated film he should be listed as Griffin's Voice.
According to the rules the "Voice" checkbox should only be used for animated films.

Speedy


It does indeed, which is the dilemma.
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Credit as Griffin's Voice and tick the voice box.


I would have to agree with the rules as they are written now that is how it is to be done.
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If the credits are not from an animated film he should be listed as Griffin's Voice.
According to the rules the "Voice" checkbox should only be used for animated films.

Speedy


Well, it doesn't say ONLY for animated films actually.  It just says to be sure to use the Voice checkbox for them.  Subtle, but different.

I'd agree with 8ball, credit as Griffin's Voice and check the box.
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Yeah, I always took the animated statement as a reminder that their voice is playing the role, not the person.  Obviously live action film can have voice only and the checkbox should apply.  Particularly in the case of narrators.  In some cases they're on screen, but often not.  I would rely on the checkbox to differentiate them.
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I've had submissions declined for LOTR where I ticked the voice box for someone credited as "voice of the ring". It seemed the screener decided that if it says "voice" in the role, then ticking the box is unnecessary.
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Well, it doesn't say ONLY for animated films actually.  It just says to be sure to use the Voice checkbox for them.  Subtle, but different.

Good catch!
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I disagree with most of you on this, it seems   

I don't see why the voice checkbox should be checked for non-animated films. Normally, if an actor in a live-action movie only has a voice part his role name reflects this, e.g. "Griffin's Voice" as mentioned in the first post. I don't see the point of using the checkbox when the role name states so clearly that this is a voice performance. (BTW, when the IMDB uses (voice) for a role name where it says e.g. "Voice of X", they usually remove the "Voice of" from the role name so that the actor is credited as "X (voice)". Hope this won't happen in DVDProfiler...)

In other cases, where an actor does voice work only but is credited with a regular character name, without an added "Voice by", then this is how that person is credited in the movie, and I don't see why one should use the checkbox to "augment" the role name in the credits.

In animated movies, the cast list normally begins with "Featuring the voices of" or something similar, and in this case I totally agree with using the voice checkbox (of course).

Just my opinion.
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I disagree with most of you on this, it seems   

I don't see why the voice checkbox should be checked for non-animated films. Normally, if an actor in a live-action movie only has a voice part his role name reflects this, e.g. "Griffin's Voice" as mentioned in the first post. I don't see the point of using the checkbox when the role name states so clearly that this is a voice performance. (BTW, when the IMDB uses (voice) for a role name where it says e.g. "Voice of X", they usually remove the "Voice of" from the role name so that the actor is credited as "X (voice)". Hope this won't happen in DVDProfiler...)

In other cases, where an actor does voice work only but is credited with a regular character name, without an added "Voice by", then this is how that person is credited in the movie, and I don't see why one should use the checkbox to "augment" the role name in the credits.

In animated movies, the cast list normally begins with "Featuring the voices of" or something similar, and in this case I totally agree with using the voice checkbox (of course).

Just my opinion.

Well, I agree with you completely! 
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I disagree with most of you on this, it seems   

I don't see why the voice checkbox should be checked for non-animated films. Normally, if an actor in a live-action movie only has a voice part his role name reflects this, e.g. "Griffin's Voice" as mentioned in the first post. I don't see the point of using the checkbox when the role name states so clearly that this is a voice performance. (BTW, when the IMDB uses (voice) for a role name where it says e.g. "Voice of X", they usually remove the "Voice of" from the role name so that the actor is credited as "X (voice)". Hope this won't happen in DVDProfiler...)

In other cases, where an actor does voice work only but is credited with a regular character name, without an added "Voice by", then this is how that person is credited in the movie, and I don't see why one should use the checkbox to "augment" the role name in the credits.

In animated movies, the cast list normally begins with "Featuring the voices of" or something similar, and in this case I totally agree with using the voice checkbox (of course).

Just my opinion.


Have to agree with Behemot on this one.  Checking the box is redundant and makes the entry look like crap.
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If the credits are not from an animated film he should be listed as Griffin's Voice.
According to the rules the "Voice" checkbox should only be used for animated films.

Speedy


It does indeed, which is the dilemma.

Which is why I am trying to change this right now.

Behemot, did you just copy and paste your comments from the other discussion to here? 

If a character is not seen, only heard, then it is VOICE ONLY.  I am not sure how people think that this does not apply??? 

The issue at hand in this discussion though is the way the rule is phrased, it leads people to believe that the time to use the voice checkbox is during animated films and not merely when the role is only a voice role -- after all, not all animated films state "Voice of ...." but we still check the voice box because we know it it correct.  Let's just change the wording of the rule so that it follows the intent and reduces the confusion...m 
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