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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Can anyone tell me if someone is credited as "Location Sound" would we credit them in Profiler and if so as what. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not credited. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | 'Location' would be 2nd or 3rd Unit, and we don't track unit personnel. | | | John
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | IMHO, it would depend on if it's the ONLY production sound-related credit. If it is, possibly even in conjunction with sound editing or re-recording credits, I'd award that with a "sound" credit. However, if there's already another production sound-related credit, like a "production sound mixer" or "sound recordist" credit, then I would disregard any other "location sound" credits. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is a TV show and there are only two sound credits "Location Sound" and "Studio Sound Supervisor" |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
It is a TV show and there are only two sound credits "Location Sound" and "Studio Sound Supervisor" Okay, the second one obviously gets a "sound" credit. In this case, I'd say that "location sound" just refers to a few short sequences shot outside the studio, while the (vast) majority of the show would have been shot IN the studio (under supervision of the "studio sound supervisor", that is). I would indeed consider that as "unit crew", and as such, would tend to disregard the credit. Again, if it were the ONLY sound credit, I'd enter him somehow, but as there is already a "sound supervisor" credit, I think it's best to leave the "location sound" man out. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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It is a TV show and there are only two sound credits "Location Sound" and "Studio Sound Supervisor"
Okay, the second one obviously gets a "sound" credit. In this case, I'd say that "location sound" just refers to a few short sequences shot outside the studio, while the (vast) majority of the show would have been shot IN the studio (under supervision of the "studio sound supervisor", that is). I would indeed consider that as "unit crew", and as such, would tend to disregard the credit. Again, if it were the ONLY sound credit, I'd enter him somehow, but as there is already a "sound supervisor" credit, I think it's best to leave the "location sound" man out. OK that seems reasonable to me i will remove him. |
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| Registered: June 22, 2007 | | Posts: 89 |
| | Posted: | | | | T!M and Rifter are wrong this time. Do what you want to do, Nick, but...
Location Sound = Production Sound Mixer
Definitely! Location means the location of shooting e.g. the film set. And the guy responsible for the sound there is the PSM. I worked on a film myself where the Production Sound Mixer(s) had a "location sound" credit in the opening titles. It's a quite common credit in film business. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting schaumi: Quote:
T!M and Rifter are wrong this time. Do what you want to do, Nick, but...
Location Sound = Production Sound Mixer
Definitely! Location means the location of shooting e.g. the film set. And the guy responsible for the sound there is the PSM. I worked on a film myself where the Production Sound Mixer(s) had a "location sound" credit in the opening titles. It's a quite common credit in film business. Except that there is no "Location Sound" listing in Profiler. And yes, location does mean the film set, but it is also used in the context of a "location shoot" and "going on location" which is typically 2nd Unit, and we don't do 2nd Unit. | | | John
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | What makes you think that 2nd unit "typically" do the location work?
The 2nd unit are there to film the filler shots the director wants that generally don't include any actors. They can be indoors, outdoors, stunts, model work - anything.
I'm in agreement with the others - Location Sound = Production Sound Mixer. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 519 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting schaumi: Quote:
T!M and Rifter are wrong this time. Do what you want to do, Nick, but...
Location Sound = Production Sound Mixer
Definitely! Location means the location of shooting e.g. the film set. And the guy responsible for the sound there is the PSM. I worked on a film myself where the Production Sound Mixer(s) had a "location sound" credit in the opening titles. It's a quite common credit in film business. I'm no expert on the sound department but that sounds logical to me. | | | | Stuart |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Except that there is no "Location Sound" listing in Profiler. And yes, location does mean the film set, but it is also used in the context of a "location shoot" and "going on location" which is typically 2nd Unit, and we don't do 2nd Unit. I am at a loss here. How can you make such a statement? I am fairly sure that Peter Jackson was part of the primary unit while filming Lord of the Rings. I know for a fact, because I watched all the DVD extras, the he directed quite a few location shoots. In addition to that, I know qute a few films that are filmed entirely on location. Does that mean they were shot by the 2nd unit crew?  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Location Sound Mixer is listed in the credits section of the rules to be entered as Production Sound Mixer
If there's no actual Production Sound Mixer credits listed in the film, then it seems logical to enter it as such. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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Except that there is no "Location Sound" listing in Profiler. And yes, location does mean the film set, but it is also used in the context of a "location shoot" and "going on location" which is typically 2nd Unit, and we don't do 2nd Unit.
I am at a loss here. How can you make such a statement? I am fairly sure that Peter Jackson was part of the primary unit while filming Lord of the Rings. I know for a fact, because I watched all the DVD extras, the he directed quite a few location shoots.
In addition to that, I know qute a few films that are filmed entirely on location. Does that mean they were shot by the 2nd unit crew? You can always find exceptions to anything Hollywood does. In the case of LOTR, based on discussions I've seen with Peter Jackson in featurettes and other places, most of the crews (there were half a dozen of them) were considered location crews. In Hollywood, those are typically called 2nd Units, and you see 'location unit' a lot as well. Either way, a Production Sound Mixer works in a sound studio, not out on location in the hinterlands somewhere. By the way, there were many shots of Jackson acting as PSM and editor, post production, in the featurettes, and I don't think he was ever credited for those. | | | John
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 389 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was watching a DVD recently and it listed the following:
Supervising sound effects editor
Sound effects editor
no other sound personal is listed. My question is would this be the same as:
Supervising sound editor
Sound editor | | | | Last edited: by Orici |
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