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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Or how about all three?? Contributed UPC code 025192057229 which is the 1948 Universal Picture of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meets Frankenstein .. Why all the negatives here??: Sorry to play devils advocate, but Chaney & Lugosi do not play dual roles in this film: Talbot sometimes becomes A wolfman, Dracula gives a false name No to title change. It's Abbott and Costello. Bud & Lou are smaller font. Emphasis on Abbott & Costello. I agree re Chaney & Lugosi agree with others "technically" right, but i agree with 8ballMax. Do these pictures paint a differant picture????.. ( I could have scanned the disc as well as it is also reads the Title as Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein ( all same sized fonts) as screen shot shows) : | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 742 |
| Posted: | | | | Ragrding the title:
IMO it should be "Bud Abbott and Lou Costello meet Frankenstein".
Arguing that the first names are not part of the title because of the font on the front cover would also mean to eliminate the "and", as it's in the same smaller font. | | | Lutz |
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| Posted: | | | | By the new rules title must be 'Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein'
It is clear on the rear cover where indicated by Ken to take the title from | | | | | | Last edited: by hayley taylor |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm indifferent towards the title. I believe you are technically correct so I was compelled to vote for it, but it's not what I'll be keeping locally. The comments regarding roles are valid. In the film, Lugosi offers a false name, but he wasn't playing two different roles. He's trying to keep a low profile. Introducing himself as Dracula would sort of blow his cover. Neither was Chaney playing two different roles. Lawrence Talbot is the wolfman. Anybody who's seen the Universal Wolfman movies would know that. In both cases, these aren't different characters, but rather the same character in different circumstances. | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: I'm indifferent towards the title. I believe you are technically correct so I was compelled to vote for it, but it's not what I'll be keeping locally. The comments regarding roles are valid. In the film, Lugosi offers a false name, but he wasn't playing two different roles. He's trying to keep a low profile. Introducing himself as Dracula would sort of blow his cover. Neither was Chaney playing two different roles. Lawrence Talbot is the wolfman. Anybody who's seen the Universal Wolfman movies would know that. In both cases, these aren't different characters, but rather the same character in different circumstances. So you are saying that we should take the cast credits by what is spoken in the script and not what is in the cast titles?? I know now what it is you are saying,, but are we not to take what is in the credits and not scripted spoken words?? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Personally, I leave both Chaney and Lugosi as credited. You have added additional entries for them as uncredited for these alias roles. Either take the one credit line and slash it or don't, but remove the uncredited lines. I get that an actor can have two different credit lines, but they should be for two different roles, not the same role with two different names. In my opinion, there should only be one credit line per role, role defined as a distinctly individual character in the film. Using your method, Chevy Chase would have like 200 credit lines in Fletch. That's just my opinion. And if the actual credits list somebody 200 times, far be it from me to say otherwise. | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,203 |
| Posted: | | | | Based on the cover and screen cap, the title should be: Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein.
As for the roles, you can't argue with the credits. It doesn't matter what the characters are called in the film. It only matters how they are credited. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Based on the cover and screen cap, the title should be: Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein.
As for the roles, you can't argue with the credits. It doesn't matter what the characters are called in the film. It only matters how they are credited. Agree on both points. | | | Pete |
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| Posted: | | | | I've been meaning to ask, why the strangely angled cover? The lines at the top of my cover are clearly horizontal but you've got the whole thing cocked by a few degrees. It's not that big a deal and I'm glad you removed that image from your original submission. I was just curious. |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote: I've been meaning to ask, why the strangely angled cover? The lines at the top of my cover are clearly horizontal but you've got the whole thing cocked by a few degrees. It's not that big a deal and I'm glad you removed that image from your original submission. I was just curious. The image was contributed by 8ballmax back in March 2007., I always thought it was a bit crooked, and as I said in the notes 'plus fixed the small tilt to the left and put a .3 degree tilt to the right' but everyone freaked out,, so I immediatley pulled that image and left the cover data base image as is' that is currently in base.. The image you see is the image that is in base.. (and it does look a little crooked.) | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Posted: | | | | Weird, the one on my profile might be off a touch, buy yours is off by a mile. I wonder how we got out of sync? |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Based on the cover and screen cap, the title should be: Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein. For what it's worth (which probably isn't much) IMDB lists it as "Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein" which is actually what the screen cap shows. There is no "and" there. However, for our purposes, what's on the cover is what counts primarily, and that is clearly "Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein". | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: Based on the cover and screen cap, the title should be: Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein. However, for our purposes, what's on the cover is what counts primarily, and that is clearly "Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein". You would think so,, but my votes so far are 2 for and 11 against..,, I bet if 8ballmax switched his vote,, his followers would change as well.. Where's Skip when I need him?? Oh yeah..,, He doesn't have this title in his vast library.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
You would think so,, but my votes so far are 2 for and 11 against..,, I bet if 8ballmax switched his vote,, his followers would change as well.. I don't follow anyone, and your addition of uncredited roles is against the rules. You may add uncredited actors, but not uncredited roles (unless no role is credited): "Uncredited actors may be listed in alphabetical order following all credited actors." You are adding actors as uncredited when they are already credited. | | | ...James
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| Posted: | | | | So you and the others are saying then that Lon Chaney Never had his makeup on for a quick screen appearance of the Wolfman?? or that Bela Lugosi never played Dr. Lajos in the film ?? The screen credits don't say,, but we know its there there . so therefore it is called UNCREDITED ... Those uncredited roles ARE already in the data base already., I just wanted to make the cast/screen roles exactly as they are credited in the closing credit roll.. ( I did leave a snapshot of that frame for all to see.. ) Perhaps you would like to have both uncredited roles removed then?? I don't question the 97 uncredited munchkins in Wizard of OZ why are you so much against these two names.. ?? I don't get it .. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks for starting this thread. I've now changed my yes vote to no (I never review yes votes). The title is definitely 'Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein" under the new Rules: "Use the title from the front cover". This is not a possessive, so we don't need to check anyplace else. I missed the bit about trying to list Lugosi and Chaney as "uncredited". How can they be "uncredited" when they are listed in the credits? | | | Hal |
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