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It's just that some users keep confusing matters by referring to those fields using different labels.

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(a) by Ken's declaration to use the most commonly credited name variant as the "name", and having to use the "credit lookup" tool to establish that, we are actually adopting IMDb's name formatting standards for years to come - at least, until the bulk of our profiles get corrected to match the actual credits.

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(b) we desperately need a few standards with regards to how we enter prefixes, suffixes and titles. Using the most-credited form will lead to incomprehensible inconsistencies: we really need to set a few ground rules.

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I actually feel the names of the fields are fine the way they are. It's just that some users keep confusing matters by referring to those fields using different labels. But IMHO "name" and "credited as" indicate the use of the fields exactly. Again, the two biggest sources of problems in this area which we all keep running into day after day, are:

(a) by Ken's declaration to use the most commonly credited name variant as the "name", and having to use the "credit lookup" tool to establish that, we are actually adopting IMDb's name formatting standards for years to come - at least, until the bulk of our profiles get corrected to match the actual credits. Note that the correcting process is actually harmed by users being able to vote against contributions correcting IMDb-data, because almost always the IMDb name variant, although incorrect, will be the most promininent name variant in the Invelos-database. This has already caused several hard-working users to have given up on contributing these changes, and instead keeping their corrected cast and crew names locally only.

(b) we desperately need a few standards with regards to how we enter prefixes, suffixes and titles. Using the most-credited form will lead to incomprehensible inconsistencies: we really need to set a few ground rules.

There's where the problems lie, and they won't be solved by changed the field labels. Ken really needs to jump in and set a few ground rules. Not just by a forum post, but by a rules update.

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With this in mind, I am going to begin modifying my procedures and I am going to spell it out here for everyone's cooperation in the effort. It requires an assumption on my part, one which I BELIEVE is correct, but recognize that it may NOT be, and in this is where I will need everyone's help as a team to make it work. IThe assumption is that Hollywood does not typically create multiple credit lists for international release and vice versa. So I will start checking my data against any versions of the same title that are extant in the database, and make corrections as necessary, this in an effort to begin to move towards a more accurate Alias table. If in ay given instance that this proves not to to be correct PLEASE let me know.

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I agree that most big name releases will be ok, but we need to look out for films like 'Renaissance', its cast list shows the 'English language cast' but it is a French film and also has a 'French language cast' that is not listed in the US release.

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With this in mind, I am going to begin modifying my procedures and I am going to spell it out here for everyone's cooperation in the effort. It requires an assumption on my part, one which I BELIEVE is correct, but recognize that it may NOT be, and in this is where I will need everyone's help as a team to make it work. IThe assumption is that Hollywood does not typically create multiple credit lists for international release and vice versa. So I will start checking my data against any versions of the same title that are extant in the database, and make corrections as necessary, this in an effort to begin to move towards a more accurate Alias table. If in ay given instance that this proves not to to be correct PLEASE let me know.

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