let me try a different tack, here. Since you guys want to play cultural supremacy here. Why exactly do we need the Common Name system if you are STILL going to ignore the ON SCREEN data and insert data which is not there, it seems to be a total waste of time.

The screen says FRANCOIS
You type Francois
You CAN document Common Name great so now we can have
François(Francois)

I sometimes really do believe that some of you just want something to argue about. The program gets modified to allow what you want and you still want to bitch about it, I simply don't get it or I do and don't want to talk about it because it's beyond belief.

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A contribution has been submitted for The Truman Show, UPC:  8-010773-200011, Locality: Italy. 

The contribution note says: "Source for data R1 097363=311270".


Among other things, the contributor removed the following Crew members:

"Johannes Brahms: Composer"

 

"Frédéric Chopin: Composer"

 

"Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Composer"

 


I am going to check some other changes, but I'll bet that contribution is indeed a substantial improvement for that profile. 

EDIT: I checked the other changes in the Crew list, and they are all correct.

I'd be very surprised to learn that any of those folks actually "wrote the score" for that movie;  especially since they've been dead for quite some time!

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I'd be very surprised to learn that any of those folks actually "wrote the score" for that movie;  especially since they've been dead for quite some time!

You sure? I heard that Mozart guy did a cracking soundtrack for "Amadeus"! 

I have one more comment for the high-falutin' holier than thou internationals here who only want to argue. Your part of the database is filthy with IMDb data, and other made-up data you guys are off doing your own thing, get it cleaned up. Your part of the database is not isolated it affects EVERY other user in the world making the database unreliable. You can get as angry at me as you like but i can document it. I am offering my assistance and for my troubles I get crap...thanks for nothing.

North you aren't debating anything, you being unreasonable and COMPLETELY unwilling to grasp what I am saying.

I also cannot disagree or try to help, have a discussion or even in another thread voice my political opinions because there are fools around here who will trow a negative on me for nearly EVERYTHING i say. I have had enough of it.

The point is, North, COPY what is on the screen nothing more or less, you don't have to INTERPRET anything, then document the Common Name and poof youi have what YOU want the way you want it.

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This is irrational and you people are either out of your cotton-pickin' minds, north or something else. I give up, you don't get it, don't want to get it and refuse to even try. You want to create a databased that is the cyber equivalent of the Tower of Babel. I am done here, plkease feel fre to continue this foolishness without me.

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So just because we disagree with your approach we're out of our "cotton-pickin' minds"? Glad to see they still teach debating skills in US schools!
The point is, by insisting that FRANCOIS becomes Francois, you are ASSUMING something. You are assuming that they intended to write Francois, whereas they could just as easily have intended to write François. The problem is, in upper case they look exactly the same, so we can't tell for certain which one was the intended name.

But surely the same will apply to those who claim that FRANCOIS should be entered as François?

BTW, the same goes for other French names. Gérard Depardieu is sometimes credited as GERARD DEPARDIEU in capital letters. But I'm pretty sure he's also been credited as Gerard Depardieu, especially in some of his English language movies. Should one then enter the capitalized GERARD DEPARDIEU as "Gérard Depardieu" in DVD Profiler (without using Common Name/Credited As), but enter "Gerard Depardieu" as "Gérard Depardieu [Gerard Depardieu] "? 

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It IS adding data which does NOT appear On Screen. Iwould agree with you Behemot
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Correct. It is adding data which does not appear on the screen... And so is not adding the accents which is the whole problem we are trying to explain to you.

The uppercase representation of "ç" is "C"
The uppercase representation of "c" is "C"

The lower case representation of "C" is the set consisting of "ç" and "c" (potentially others as well, but let's keep this simple).

If the only information you have one screen is "C" then the only conclusion you can draw from what you see on the screen is that the lowercase letter falls in the set consisting of "ç" and "c".

If you choose "ç" you have selected a single element of the set - and hence "added" the information that the character shouldn't be "c", even though the only information you have from the screen is that it should be either "ç" or "c".

Similar, if you choose "c" you have selected a single element of the set - and hence "added" the information that the character shouldn't be "ç", even though the only information you have from the screen is that it should be either "ç" or "c".

Both options obviously add information (by selecting a single character from the set of valid interpretations).

Now if we should standardize on one or the other I do not know, but we have to accept that the rules as they are now simply do not specify which standard rules to apply.

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Your part of the database is filthy with IMDb data

You are talking about the 260179 profiles not part of the locality US, right?
The locality US has 81133 profiles.
You are looking in your local database at a maximum of 5419 profiles.

What do want to say exactly about which part of the database?

Like I've said before, if each and every cast and crew name must be exhaustively researched for both parsing, nationality, different nations' spelling and capitalization rules, and the cast/crew member's own personal preference, then the already time-consuming process of contributing profiles will become near impossible. I guess I'll keep my corrected profiles local from now on, and instead concentrate on adding new profiles of DVDs I buy that are not in the database - I really don't feel like spending even more time than I already do on this, as I already spend a considerable amount of time on ensuring the data I contribute is correct.