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If there's an official site, such as in this case, IMHO there isn't even room for debate. With such a "strong" source, I don't even agree with Ken's statement that the "common name" should be what the person is most credited as - if the official site says it's Gian Maria Volontè, then that's what I'd use, even if I'd have ten credits as Gian Maria Volonte without any accent at all.

I agree.

Me too. Real Names should have priority over Common Names.

You guys should be careful using real names for common names.  The whole reason for a common name is to link multiple profiles to the same actor who might have different spelling in their various film credits.  So really the common name should be their most commonly credited as name in the Ivelos Data Base, which may not be their real name or how the actor personally spells their name.

Here's an example a user submitted to a profile the actress Donna De Lory as a common name because that is how she spells it on her website.  However in all her film credits she spells it as Donna DeLory.  By making Donna De Lory as the common name effectively broke this profile's linking to all her other film credits.

In my opion common names should not be birth names or personal spelling names, they should only be the most commonly credited as name.

For what reason would you want to use Donna De Lory as her common name.  It's a field you don't see except when your editing a profile or submitting a profile.  If you use that is a common name then your will need to edit every single one of her profiles and make that as her common name.

I don't think Ken ever intended real names to be used as common names.  It was only there so we could link the same actor to their various profiles.

With this logic of using real names your going to expect everyone to know what the actor's real name is.

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If there's an official site, such as in this case, IMHO there isn't even room for debate. With such a "strong" source, I don't even agree with Ken's statement that the "common name" should be what the person is most credited as - if the official site says it's Gian Maria Volontè, then that's what I'd use, even if I'd have ten credits as Gian Maria Volonte without any accent at all.

I agree.

Me too. Real Names should have priority over Common Names.

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This is exactly wjhy we need standards and criteria BEFORE doin much with common names. Who gets to determine the PRIORITY name. You say its James, I say its Jim and somebody else say its Jimmy....who is right.

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For what reason would you want to use Donna De Lory as her common name.  It's a field you don't see except when your editing a profile or submitting a profile.  If you use that is a common name then your will need to edit every single one of her profiles and make that as her common name.

I don't think Ken ever intended real names to be used as common names.  It was only there so we could link the same actor to their various profiles.

With this logic of using real names your going to expect everyone to know what the actor's real name is.

I agree with Tracer on this one - this is why the "common name" issue needs to be put on hold until Ken solves it.

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Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong (affectionately known as Cheech & Chong) is born respectively "Richard Anthony Marin" and "Thomas B. Kin Chong". You guys can't seriously suggest we credit them as this and use the "as credited" field accordingly?!? 
The same goes for Sammo Hung (born: Hong Jin Bao) and in some databases (of which I shall not name) is called Sammo Hung Kam-bo....

Leave the "as credited" field alone and enter as credited on screen until further notice is my honest opinion. 

You will notice that the title of this thread is "Common name spelling". I did not advocate using real names when their common names are different in the way you describe.

I vote for that!

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For what reason would you want to use Donna De Lory as her common name.  It's a field you don't see except when your editing a profile or submitting a profile.  If you use that is a common name then your will need to edit every single one of her profiles and make that as her common name.

I don't think Ken ever intended real names to be used as common names.  It was only there so we could link the same actor to their various profiles.

With this logic of using real names your going to expect everyone to know what the actor's real name is.

I agree with Tracer on this one - this is why the "common name" issue needs to be put on hold until Ken solves it.

Another example;
Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong (affectionately known as Cheech & Chong) is born respectively "Richard Anthony Marin" and "Thomas B. Kin Chong". You guys can't seriously suggest we credit them as this and use the "as credited" field accordingly?!? 
The same goes for Sammo Hung (born: Hong Jin Bao) and in some databases (of which I shall not name) is called Sammo Hung Kam-bo....

Leave the "as credited" field alone and enter as credited on screen until further notice is my honest opinion. 

You will notice that the title of this thread is "Common name spelling". I did not advocate using real names when their common names are different in the way you describe.

Point taken.... 

Bodi, could you let me know your source for naming Johnny Wels as Gian Maria Volontè - I have a profile for Fistful that hasn't been changed, and I'd like to update it to match the others.