Quoting antolod:

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Not trying to start an argument, but I am auditing a film where all of the roles are in all caps. This is not the first one I've seen like this and AFIK no profile I've ever seen reproduces that.

IMO it would look pretty bad for all of the role names to be that way. Is this what you guys want?

For the curious, 043396144187 Facing the Giants is what I'm working on. I can't recall any of the other titles, but I know I've seen all caps for roles in a lot of films.

When credits appear all in caps like that, normal capitalization rules can be used then. It states that in the rules actually:

Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead.

Quoting ya_shin:

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That rue actually indicates that standard capitalization rules are only to be used, when we see entirely capitalized credits.

That's what I meant.

Quoting Katatonia:

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Another role question about Fargo:

The two Coen brothers use the single name "Roderick Jaynes" as a pseudonym for the editing credit in the film.

How then do I use "as credited" when that single Crew credit indicates both brothers? List Roderick Jaynes twice? That would not be as credited then as it appears only one time.

There are two purposes of the film credits: one to duplicate the credits and one to link names between credits.

The only way to click on 'Joel Coen' and see that he is credited as an editor on Fargo is if you use Joel Coen for the name and Roderick Jaynes as 'credited as'. Same for Ethan Coen.

If instead you choose to use 'Joel & Ethan Coen' as the name with a credited as of 'Roderick Jaynes', then this role is disconnected from both 'Joel Coen' and 'Ethan Coen'.

In this circumstance, you can't be true to one purpose without "breaking" the other. I would err in favor of name linking since that has a productive purpose.

I'm sure others will disagree. 

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Quoting Unicus69:

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So have I but, the first time I submitted 'Night at the Museum', I entered one of the roles as "Atilla The Hun", as it was credited.  I got 1 'no' vote stating it should have been 'Atilla the Hun".  The contribution was declined.  I waited a long time...more than two monts...because I didn't want to change my local.  In the end, because I wanted to get Owen Wilson's uncredited role into the profile, I made the change and resubmitted.  That was the only change I made and it was accepted. 

Try it again and include a link to a screen shot proving the "The" case, it should be accepted then.

Quoting hal9g:

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Quoting m.cellophane:

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I'm sure others will disagree. 

Yup, actually, I would disagree.

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I would use "The Coen Brothers" in the "Name" field and "Roderick Jaynes" in the "credited as" field.

Crediting them individually would be like taking a credit for "The Beatles" in a film and creating four individual credits, one for each of the fab four!

The Coen Brothers were a team and chose to be credited as such in the film; not individually.

Not individually as editor, but individually they were Ethan as producer, writer, and Joel as director, writer.

I don't think we have the programming and rules to deal with this properly. Any solution we come up with will be wrong in some respect, so I'm going to tidy up my local and leave it at that. 

Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:

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Thanks, Martin. I'm going to use that locally.

I did not say they are "credited as the Coen Brothers".  I said to put "Roderick Jaynes" in the "credited as" field, because that IS the way they are credited in the film.

Since their "credited as" name is different than their actual name, we should enter a "common name" for them.  The "common name" does NOT come from the actual film credits.  It is the name that we agree is to be used for this particular person(s).  When these guys collaborate on a film, they most frequently are credited as the "The Coen Brothers", so that is what I would use as the "common name".

No where in the Rules does it say you can take a single credit that refers to more than one person and break it into individual credits!

Quoting hal9g:

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Yup, actually, I would disagree.  I would use "The Coen Brothers" in the "Name" field and "Roderick Jaynes" in the "credited as" field.

Since the Coens have never used the term "The Coen Brothers" in their credits, we may not use that. We could of course use "Roderick Jaynes" as the common name for the team.