Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:

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Anyway, I now know any poll is useless to persuade Ken. It's just usefull for your own decisions or perhaps to persuade other users.

That's how I (mostly) use them as well: they're an interesting way to gauge opinion on a subject. When I'm voting no because of a certain issue, a poll may show that everyone agrees with me, that it's a grey area, or that I stand completely alone on any given subject. In the latter case, that might convince me to change my stance on the subject, or at least my vote. I also feel polls remain an interesting way for Ken to keep up to speed about "hot issues" in the community. Of course, he can use that information any way he wants to. I should also point out that the vast, and mostly rather silent, majority of the users never visits the forums - and given the current state of affairs here, who can blame 'em?

Back on topic, I stil feel pretty confident that the number of actual George 'Buck' Flower credits out there is surprisingly close to zero, and I would rather focus on correcting more profiles with the names actually used on-screen instead of starting to use George 'Buck' Flower as a "common name". No matter what the "lookup tool" returns today, I'm absolutely sure that when all profiles are "as credited", George 'Buck' Flower will NOT emerge as the most-credited form. It may turn out to be Buck Flower, or it may be George "Buck" Flower, but it certainly won't be George 'Buck' Flower. Again: I'll be glad to take on any bets on the matter.

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Quoting T!M:

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The single quotation marks are indeed a dead giveaway that the majority of the data as returned by the credit lookup tool was lifted straight from IMDb.

Even if so, the problem lies in the wrong contributions (that should be corrected), not in the Credit Lookup Tool (which is as good as the data it relies on).
I think the road to go is: do use the Credit Lookup Tool, but also do correct the wrong credits in the database, so that the CLT will provide "better" results.

That I of course absolutely agree with. When making these corrections, though, I would personally see little use in adding a "common name" of George 'Buck' Flower to each and every profile that I corrected, because I'd know full well that it was wrong. True, you could do so using the "lookup tool" as an argument, but it only creates more work in the long run. Again, I'm not saying you're not ALLOWED to do so, but since this is so obvious, I just think it would be silly.

It's slightly off-topic but to address Martin's issue - I would class missing accents as a spelling mistake, and in all other cases we would use "credited as" to show spelling mistakes in names, with the common name preserving the correct spelling, accents included. For example, even if it was the most common entry, I'd hate to think that Ken would agree with the use of "John Wain" as a common name.
As to the topic in hand, taking a quick look in the IMDB page, it seems that the majority of his credits are for "Buck Flower" (I didn't count so may be wrong). If that is true, then I'd say that was his common name.

That's okay, Pete, I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that I  couldn't possibly justify working that way. FYI: I put an enormous amount of work into DVD Profiler. For every common name I contribute, I'll do the necessary research, I'll check a large number of profiles, and then I'll decide on a common name. I will then start using that common name, even if there's no majority in the "credit lookup tool" yet - note that this is essentially the case each and every time I settle on a different common name than IMDb did. Do I make mistakes? Sure, there are bound to be, but I do my best to correct them A.S.A.P. Generally speaking, I find my approach a lot better (and causing fewer pointless updates) than blindly inserting the IMDb-name as "common name" for about every single actor, only to have to change them all again later on. Especially these examples with the single quotation marks are a very obvious example of this. So that's my method. I daresay the end result is exactly the same - we just have a different way of getting there. I'm not asking for your approval: if you don't like the way I work, feel free to vote against my updates whenever you see them, or better yet: do the work yourself.

IMHO, the bottom line is that all this talk is very nice, but we need to get to work. With every approved cast/crew update, the "credit lookup tool" results will improve. I'm not one to boast, but I just checked, and I now have 5.671 approved contributions under my belt. I'd say I'm doing my share... Are you?

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Could you please tell us which thirteen profiles these are? And are you sure your profiles are "as credited"? Not trying to be funny - I'm seriously interested. In my experience, single quotation marks are only very rarely used in actual film credits, so I'd be interested to know whether you really have thirteen profiles actually using this form of the name on-screen.

I've check all the screen credit of those profile after the PM and this is what you see on the screen credit :

Back to the future : Buck Flower
Back to the future 2 : Buck Flower
Bigfoot Terror : George Buck Flower
Cheerleader camp : Buck Flower
Deep jaws/The dicktator (Special edition) : C.D. Lefleur
The dirty mind of young sally/Teenage bride (Special edition) : C.D. LaFleure
The Godson/Below the belt (Special edition) : Buck Flower
Ilsa she wolf of the SS : C.D. Lafleuer
Ilsa harem keeper of the oil sheiks : C.D. Lafleur
The fog : George "Buck" Flower
Maniac cop : George "Buck" Flower
They live : George "Buck" Flower
They live (Zone 2) : George "Buck" Flower

As you could see George 'Buck' Flower is nowhere on the screen credit, but the "credited as" is for that. My choice is a personal preference, but if you have to select a common name it's better to go for George "Buck" Flower than Buck Flower since the last option is not his name.

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Could you please tell us which thirteen profiles these are? And are you sure your profiles are "as credited"? Not trying to be funny - I'm seriously interested. In my experience, single quotation marks are only very rarely used in actual film credits, so I'd be interested to know whether you really have thirteen profiles actually using this form of the name on-screen.

I've check all the screen credit of those profile after the PM and this is what you see on the screen credit :

Back to the future : Buck Flower
Back to the future 2 : Buck Flower
Bigfoot Terror : George Buck Flower
Cheerleader camp : Buck Flower
Deep jaws/The dicktator (Special edition) : C.D. Lefleur
The dirty mind of young sally/Teenage bride (Special edition) : C.D. LaFleure
The Godson/Below the belt (Special edition) : Buck Flower
Ilsa she wolf of the SS : C.D. Lafleuer
Ilsa harem keeper of the oil sheiks : C.D. Lafleur
The fog : George "Buck" Flower
Maniac cop : George "Buck" Flower
They live : George "Buck" Flower
They live (Zone 2) : George "Buck" Flower

As you could see George 'Buck' Flower is nowhere on the screen credit, but the "credited as" is for that. My choice is a personal preference, but if you have to select a common name it's better to go for George "Buck" Flower than Buck Flower since the last option is not his name.

Thank you for bothering to check on all these. As I expected, George "Buck" Flower would seem to be the mostly used form, although it could still turn out to be just Buck Flower. At any rate - no surprise there - there's not a single George 'Buck' Flower credit. Anyone still up for correcting a load of his credits with George 'Buck' Flower as "common name", just because the credit lookup tool incorrectly says it's the most credited form? Please - use a bit of common sense, people.

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Tim:

You found it, why are you asking someone else to do it. Get to it, bud.   Astounding.
You find it, you bring it up and start a poll, then ask someone else to do the work.

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Have you actually read anything I've been saying here? You are now accusing me of not doing the work?        Trust me, I am! Take a deep breath, and try reading some of these posts for a change, instead of just picking up two or three words and firing off another rant...

BTW, Tim, I am sure you are totally that the use of 'Buck"(single quotes) is VERY rare, it does happen. But the use of single quotes is common SOMEWHERE.

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