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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Do we want to go this route?
Of course they want it, they just don't get it... For all I care they can downgrade DVDP as much as they want, I'm perfectly happy with the way DVDP is actually (of course I don't use the online collection feature who is quite weak to be polite) and I don't see the need to have a weaker version of it in the future. They can do whatever they want : I don't use the database, I don't contribute and nobody will forced me to use a least effective profiler because of two frustated canucks... Looks like DVDP is on a downgrading way, quite sad for a profiler who was the best of its category... | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | AESP, can you explain why Quebec should be a country of origin? | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
AESP, can you explain why Quebec should be a country of origin? I think you're concentrating too much on the word "country", it's already been shown the list already contains things other than countries. I suppose the question should be are there films that can be considered "Quebec" productions as opposed to "Canada" productions? I'm no expert on Canadian film history, but I have heard of some films produced in Quebec and filmed in Quebec's primary language. Just don't ask me to name any!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Do we want to go this route? If so, then Hong Kong and the United Kingdom also needs to be removed.
Hong Kong is now considered part of China and the UK is actually 4 countries. I could go with that. AFAIK Hong Kong doesn't have autonomy. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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AESP, can you explain why Quebec should be a country of origin?
I think you're concentrating too much on the word "country", it's already been shown the list already contains things other than countries.
I suppose the question should be are there films that can be considered "Quebec" productions as opposed to "Canada" productions?
I'm no expert on Canadian film history, but I have heard of some films produced in Quebec and filmed in Quebec's primary language. Just don't ask me to name any! Perhaps we are focused on the word country because the name of the field is ' COUNTRY of Origin". If they are "other things" listed in the "CoO" list, they should all be removed. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Perhaps we are focused on the word country because the name of the field is 'COUNTRY of Origin". So you support the removal of Hong Kong, Taiwan and the UK from the list as well then? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
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Do we want to go this route? If so, then Hong Kong and the United Kingdom also needs to be removed.
Hong Kong is now considered part of China and the UK is actually 4 countries.
I could go with that. AFAIK Hong Kong doesn't have autonomy. Hong Kong was a separate country until recently, so should be retained for movies that were made there while it was a country. I would have no problem with removing UK as long as the info was available t o replace those entries with the proper country. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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Perhaps we are focused on the word country because the name of the field is 'COUNTRY of Origin".
So you support the removal of Hong Kong, Taiwan and the UK from the list as well then? I support the UK being broken up into the respective countries. I don't support Hong Kong being removed for the reasons Sam and Hal mentioned in the other thread. I don't know why Taiwan is in there, and I'm stupid about its history (was it a country at one point?), so I can't give an educated answer on it.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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Perhaps we are focused on the word country because the name of the field is 'COUNTRY of Origin".
So you support the removal of Hong Kong, Taiwan and the UK from the list as well then? Taiwan is recognized by a large part of the world as a separate country, so I would leave it. The UK did not recognize the independence of many countries that broke away from her for some period of time after they declared their independence. Same thing here. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Taiwan is recognized by a large part of the world as a separate country, so I would leave it. But you're OK with Hong Kong and the United Kingdom being removed? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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Taiwan is recognized by a large part of the world as a separate country, so I would leave it.
But you're OK with Hong Kong and the United Kingdom being removed? See above. Hong Kong was a "country" before it was "re-absorbed" into China. It should remain. However, any movies made there now should list China as the CoO. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
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Taiwan is recognized by a large part of the world as a separate country, so I would leave it.
But you're OK with Hong Kong and the United Kingdom being removed?
See above. Hong Kong was a "country" before it was "re-absorbed" into China. It should remain.
However, any movies made there now should list China as the CoO. Hong Kong wasn't a "country", it was a British colony until 1997 when control was handed back to the Chinese. Seeing how that was a 100 year agreement, I seriously doubt many films were produced before then. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree with everything Hal just said. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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Taiwan is recognized by a large part of the world as a separate country, so I would leave it.
But you're OK with Hong Kong and the United Kingdom being removed?
See above. Hong Kong was a "country" before it was "re-absorbed" into China. It should remain.
However, any movies made there now should list China as the CoO.
Hong Kong wasn't a "country", it was a British colony until 1997 when control was handed back to the Chinese. Seeing how that was a 100 year agreement, I seriously doubt many films were produced before then. So it was part of the UK? If we are eliminating the UK, then it would have to be in the list. And besides, Hong Kong's history cannot be compared to Quebec's in any way. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 28, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,299 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I suppose the question should be are there films that can be considered "Quebec" productions as opposed to "Canada" productions? You can consider any movie financed by a Quebec-based entity to be a Quebec production, just as you can consider any movie financed by Ontario-based entities to be Ontario productions, and B.C. productions, and Nova Scotia productions, etc. But all of those are part of the country of Canada, and so all of those are Canadian productions. If I understand AESP_pres correctly, he feels there should be a Canada (Quebec) CoO because the Quebec film industry is the most successful of any provincial film industry in Canada. While that statement is true, it's a logic I don't follow and can't get behind. A film being made in Quebec doesn't make it any less or any more Canadian than one made in Ontario. Regardless of which Canadian province makes a film, it's a Canadian film. | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS!
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,747 |
| | Posted: | | | | I assume all the stirring comes from this (from Wikipedia): Quote:
Sovereignty plays a large role in the politics of Quebec, and the Official Opposition social democratic Parti Québécois advocates national sovereignty for the province and secession from Canada. Sovereignist governments have held referendums on independence in 1980 and 1995; both were voted down by voters, the latter defeated by a very narrow margin. In 2006, the Canadian House of Commons passed a symbolic motion recognizing the "Québécois as a nation within a united Canada.". I don't care either way since I don't do statistics by CoO but if we're going down historical roads, then I'm voting for adding West Germany and the GDR and the former united Czechoslovakia because I actually have movies and series from these countries and if I'd ever consider buying the Heinz Rühmann movies like "Die Feuerzangenbowle" then we'd need The Third Reich as well.... | | | Karsten
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