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| Registered: March 29, 2007 |  Posts: 77 |
| | Posted: | | | | Okay this is my first time on these forums so bear with me... here's my issue.. For the Third season of CSI , the 1st disc contains episode 302,301,302,30 listed(labeled) in that order on both the DVD Menu/Disc itself/ and Cover. Sorry tried to take a snapshot of menu but kept locking up my laptop.They are on the disk in there original airdate sequence, but not production. I know the consensus is to drop the 3(since it stands for the season). In my contribution I created dividers and numbered them as they are numbered on the dvd(02,01,03,04). I stated in my contribution but that the numbers were out of order but that's how they were labeled on the DVDs(disk 2 is also out of seq.). If I need to just number them from 1-23 that's fine.. I was actually waiting to see if folks that voted 'No' would actually tell me this.. but some of the folks that said'No' stated the following..."I'd put the episodes in order as labeled on the dvd box" (the episodes are listed in order as labled on the dvd box).. another stated "I think they should be in broadcast order" (again they are in broadcast order). and 1 other stated "they should be in the order on the DVD and in the form 1" (again they are in order I'll change the number to 1 instead of 01, did this to make all numbers and episode titles line up, I know probably anal of me). Thought I would bring this to the forum before I tried making corrections and tried to explain everything in contribution notes(don't think I was very clear the first tme). I honestly don't really care about numbering but want to make sure I get the standard right so makes it easier for me going forward on the other epidode driven dvds. Hope this was all clear.. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting williamperryiii: Quote:
Okay this is my first time on these forums so bear with me... here's my issue.. For the Third season of CSI , the 1st disc contains episode 302,301,302,30 listed(labeled) in that order on both the DVD Menu/Disc itself/ and Cover. Sorry tried to take a snapshot of menu but kept locking up my laptop.They are on the disk in there original airdate sequence, but not production. I know the consensus is to drop the 3(since it stands for the season). In my contribution I created dividers and numbered them as they are numbered on the dvd(02,01,03,04). I stated in my contribution but that the numbers were out of order but that's how they were labeled on the DVDs(disk 2 is also out of seq.). If I need to just number them from 1-23 that's fine.. I was actually waiting to see if folks that voted 'No' would actually tell me this.. but some of the folks that said'No' stated the following..."I'd put the episodes in order as labeled on the dvd box" (the episodes are listed in order as labled on the dvd box).. another stated "I think they should be in broadcast order" (again they are in broadcast order). and 1 other stated "they should be in the order on the DVD and in the form 1" (again they are in order I'll change the number to 1 instead of 01, did this to make all numbers and episode titles line up, I know probably anal of me). Thought I would bring this to the forum before I tried making corrections and tried to explain everything in contribution notes(don't think I was very clear the first tme). I honestly don't really care about numbering but want to make sure I get the standard right so makes it easier for me going forward on the other epidode driven dvds. Hope this was all clear.. Yes, it was. Simply number the episodes in the order they appear on the disc, using the format "1. Episode Name". That was the rule proposal the rules committee agreed upon (after the forum decision about that). The proposal is currently awaiting Ken's approval and addition to the rules. | | | | Michael |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | actually just waiting for addition to the rules... when I sent it to Ken... he stated that he was following the thread and has the update all set in his To Do list for Rules update...
So you want..
1. Episode Name
2. Episode Name
3. Episode Name
...and so on. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just wondering, how do we number episodes for seasons that are split into more than one volume?
Say a season is split into 2 volumes. Episodes 1-15 are in Volume 1. Episodes 16-30 are in Volume 2.
Would we number them as.
For both volumes:
Episodes 1-15
or Volume 1
Episodes 1-15
Volume 2
Episodes 16-30
Of course each would follow the standard numbering method of "1. Episode Name" | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | It would be per set... so both volumes would be episodes 1-15 | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
It would be per set... so both volumes would be episodes 1-15 What if the volumes are contained in a single set? I case that holds 3 volumes? Would each volume still start and 1? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Such as? Unicus. My initial reaction is to ask what the Distributor does, not hard. Most disttributors seem to treat each series or volume independently, but not all. Just as we can't say put the show in broadcast order, because sometimes they are on the disc in Production Order which can be very different from Broadcast. This basically seem to me to be a non-question. Another one of thiose areas that I have no trouble figuring out and am confused by those who seem to not get it. Not tryng to be sarcastic or nasty just trying to explain my response. Right now I am working on VoyagettBotS 3.1 and Disc 1 has Episodes 59-64 and so on. there is no question in my mind how that gets dealt with. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Such as? Unicus. My initial reaction is to ask what the Distributor does, not hard. Most disttributors seem to treat each series or volume independently, but not all. Just as we can't say put the show in broadcast order, because sometimes they are on the disc in Production Order which can be very different from Broadcast.
This basically seem to me to be a non-question. Another one of thiose areas that I have no trouble figuring out and am confused by those who seem to not get it. Not tryng to be sarcastic or nasty just trying to explain my response. Right now I am working on VoyagettBotS 3.1 and Disc 1 has Episodes 59-64 and so on. there is no question in my mind how that gets dealt with.
Skip You have forgotten that they have decided to create a single standard regardless of how the distributor treats them...hence my question. To answer your 'such as' question, I am auditing Stargate SG-1. I am now in the middle of season 5. All 5 seasons, so far, are set up as follows: 5 discs (called volumes) packaged in 3 slimpacks held in a single sleeve. On the discs (volumes) they are numbered 1-21...episodes 1-4 are on volume 1, 5-8 are on volume 2, etc. Based on what Pete said, I would have to number each volume 1-4...meaning the numbering would not continue on from volume to volume. Each one would start with '1. episode title'. That is why I asked the question. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | In that case I would agree with you, unicus. and as I have notedbefore if the intent is to depart from what is actually on the Discs, then that is flat out WRONG.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 211 |
| | Posted: | | | | I plan on getting around to undertaking The Complete Jeeves & Wooster TV series. The box set contians 8 keepcases, each with their own UPC (they have been released seperately). There are 4 seasons, each split over 2 keep cases, and are titled "Jeeves & Wooster: The Complete First Season - Volume One," "Jeeves & Wooster: The Complete First Season - Volume Two," "Jeeves & Wooster: The Complete Second Season - Volume One," and so on. Each volume contains 3 episodes of the six episode season. The distributor gives episode names, but no numbers.
My intention is to treat the 2 volumes of each of the 4 "Complete Seasons" (as they are labled) as units for numbering purposes.
Starting with the Series 1, volume 1 child:
(Divider)1. Episode
(cast)
(Divider)2. Episode
(cast)
(Divider)3. Episode
(cast)
and then on the Series 1, volume 2 child:
(Divider)4. Episode
(cast)
(Divider)5. Episode
(cast)
(Divider)6. Episode
(cast)
and then on the Series 2, volume 1 child:
(Divider)1. Episode
(cast)
(Divider)2. Episode
(cast)
(Divider)3. Episode
(cast)
and so on.
Then on the parent profile, it will be similar, except using 2 dividers at the start of each series to denote the start of the next series:
(Divider)Series 1
(Divider)1. Episode
(cast)
(Divider)2. Epsiode
(cast)
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(Divider)Series 2
(Divider)1. Episode
(cast)
and so on.
This keeps the episode numbering consistent between parent and child profiles. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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It would be per set... so both volumes would be episodes 1-15
What if the volumes are contained in a single set? I case that holds 3 volumes? Would each volume still start and 1? In such cases... It is sold as a single boxset.. so it should be numbered sequentially from one vol. to the next. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Should the overview list of episodes exactly match the numbering system on the cast/crew dividers?
The Voyag to the Bottom of the Sea volumes have overviews that are going by the total amount of episodes in the series.
For example the Season 2, Volume 2 of VTTBOTS has the following in the overview.
"Episodes
46) Terror on Dinosaur Island
47) Killers of the Deep
48) Deadly Creature Below
49) The Phantom Strikes
50) The Sky's On Fire
51) Graveyard of Fear
52) The Shape of Doom
53) Dead Men's Doubloons
54) The Death Ship
55) The Monster's Web
56) The Menfish
57) The Mechanical Man
58) The Return of the Phantom"
Is that the correct way or should it be rebumbered starting from 1? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | As of right now it is unclear in the rules... the rules just say a simple episode list can be added. but does not tell how to format the list. My guess is when we get to that point in the rules it will be the same as the episode dividers... but that is only my guess at this point.
As of right now it doesn't break the rules... nor would updating it to the format of episodes dividers... so at this point (until we get the rules updated) either way is fine per rules.
but in my personal opinion... it should be renumbered... but that is just personal preference on my part. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Should the overview list of episodes exactly match the numbering system on the cast/crew dividers?
The Voyag to the Bottom of the Sea volumes have overviews that are going by the total amount of episodes in the series.
For example the Season 2, Volume 2 of VTTBOTS has the following in the overview.
"Episodes
46) Terror on Dinosaur Island
47) Killers of the Deep
48) Deadly Creature Below
49) The Phantom Strikes
50) The Sky's On Fire
51) Graveyard of Fear
52) The Shape of Doom
53) Dead Men's Doubloons
54) The Death Ship
55) The Monster's Web
56) The Menfish
57) The Mechanical Man
58) The Return of the Phantom"
Is that the correct way or should it be rebumbered starting from 1? Like Pete said you wouldn't be breaking any rules but, it looks like the direction the majority of the community is going it would probably be better to start at 1. Episode Name format for each season. | | | Are you local?
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer:
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Like Pete said you wouldn't be breaking any rules but, it looks like the direction the majority of the community is going it would probably be better to start at 1. Episode Name format for each season.
Does that also apply to volumes, since this is volume 2 of season 2? Would the first episode in the overview for volume 2 start with '1' or be continued from the first volume of the season? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is up to you and the voters. Personally I would continue the numbering from the end of Volume 1 Season 2. But, nothing in the rules saying you can't start from 1. or don't number at all. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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