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I really wish some of you would actually read the comments posted in these forums before you start attacking willy nilly.
This thread was started purely to discuss the origins of the "middle name" as the user was unfamiliar with it.

That's why I ended my post with

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FWIW the original poster was only asking a question not for a change to the program.

It was a genuine and good question, but it seemed like a number of the replies coming from across the pond(s) were once again US-bashing or requesting further accommodations to their custom (replacing the 3 name fields with 2: given names(s) and Surname.

Just because I am paranoid does't mean no one is out to get me.

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Quoting sugarjoe:

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Rifter,

I am sorry to say this, but you are completely missing the point here.

No, I don't think I am.  I have no problem with people suggesting improvements or changes.  But things like this 'middle name' thing are pointless.  Non-americans don't like it and don't understand it, and somebody is always coming along wanting to change it.  We've seen other areas of contention as well and for the same reasons. 

If you think the world can be grouped into Americans/Non-americans, I start to see why you think the whole world is against you. Basically you are grouping billions of people into one bucket, and any change done to help just a few millions from this bucket, you see as "now they got their way again", even though the majority might not have received any benefit what so ever. Add up all these small changes, and yes - the outside world is there to take over everything - which annoys you.
If you instead devide your big bucket into smaller ones (like "those who use middle names" etc) you will find that the bucket the US ends up in for each issue seems to be the one getting the most attention, even if the other buckets are bigger - which obviously annoys the people in the other buckets.

So, simply based on different groupings - everyone can be annoyed. At least that is fair

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I don't think it's malicious in most cases, so much as subconscious.  My main area of interest is politics, and I follow it closely not only in American press and news outlets, but in overseas sources.  It isn't hard to find stuff that is critical of America in nearly every field of endeavor, and it varies from subconsciously subtle to overtly 'in your face.'

Ehh, there is nothing wrong with being critical - and obviously the more powerful you are, the more critical people are. Just think about politics - the higher you get in the hirarchi, the more the other side will critisize you - no one care about what random democrats/republicans say before they get some power - then the critics start.

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I don't want to get into a big deal in here, but suffice to say that I've been following this for a very long time, so my sense of humor and patience have long since worn thin in this area.  There is more of it going on than many of you realize.

Maybe people do not realize it because they did not make this American/Non-american bucket. So instead of just noticing Germany being critical to the US, they know Germany is critical to the US, Franch, Poland, and China etc.

Threads like this make me sad. I like America and Americans, but why are you so bloody paranoid? John, I PMed you before about this and tried to help you understand what Lars has just suggested. You seem to run to your stock answers referencing American politics and military at the drop of a hat! No-one's attacked America in this thread, so why? I could continually reference the benefits the world received from the British Empire and it's distinguished military history, to which the American military owes a huge debt. But I won't. 

I only typed that to demonstrate the futility of such an argument. If you are furiously typing a response, stop. Relax. Breathe ...  and ...

"I'd like to teach the world to sing..." 

As Unicus and I have both said, 'Middle Name' is more of a slang term. It isn't affected by culture in terms of this database. There has been a suggestion it may not even be needed. A fair discussion point, again, not affected by culture. Keep it or don't will not un-Americanise the program.

... in perfect harmony."

I do recognise that DVD Profiler is American software, but this thread never suggested it should change it's core nature. It's simply worth being aware of how it's used worldwide and you should be proud of that.

"I'd like to hold it in my arms ...

What I do dislike is the suggestion that Ken has had to bend over backwards to accomodate us minority countries! This is one of my favourite programs, but I'll dump it faster than you can say "Howdy" if anyone tries to make me feel guilty for using outside of it's home borders. I already have to put up with my sodding PC saying "Why are you using English (British)? Your default should be English (US). Change it now!" Grr.

... and keep it company. 2, 3, 4, altogether now!

Quoting kdh1949:

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It was a genuine and good question, but it seemed like a number of the replies coming from across the pond(s) were once again US-bashing or requesting further accommodations to their custom (replacing the 3 name fields with 2: given names(s) and Surname.

Just because I am paranoid does't mean no one is out to get me.

You guys are really way too sensitive - I've just reread the thread and can't find a single instance of US bashing. And very often, it's the knee-jerk reaction that we get back that causes all the anti-US posts!
Yes, some people discussed different ways of handling names in the program, but what's wrong with that? Isn't that what these forums are for? And notice I said "different", not "better" - at no point has anyone suggested the current way is wrong or bad - it's just confusing for people who aren't familiar with the middle name concept.

PS my initial comment wasn't aimed at you directly, apologies if it came across as being so.

Proud to be a non-American! 

I guess I was the only one who wanted to get on topic.  Sorry for the intrusion.  I now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering. 

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= It isn't correct in written English because you can have several given names; which one is in the middle? It's just that most people only have one if any

I read a story in the paper this morning about a woman who gave her daughter over a 100 'middle' names. All related to boxers, apparently her parents started it with her and she wanted to carry on the 'tradition'. 

Yeah, but this is in the same vein as kids named after the complete teams of Chelsea/Arsenal/ManUre/<insert fav team here> etc.......most of them appear to reside in Essex!

I have a better sentence for Jon, but i won't say it. I will however, give a hint.....ack! ack!

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Quoting Sanuye:

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Profiles in Invelos Database:
R1:            59,364
R2:          171,149
R3:            8,093
R4:          38,942
R5:            6,750
R6:            1,488
No Region: 13,596

ok... it's american software...

How many of those are repeat profiles because of Localities?

Nor do those numbers indicate actual unique users.