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So? I've explicitly said only if the international title is shown on the cover and/or in the credits.

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Pirates of the Carribean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - Fluch der Karabik - Curse of the Carribean (don't even ask about Part 2 and 3)

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German marketing guys have funny ideas.

Die Hard - Strib Langsam - Die Slowly

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Live Free or Die Hard - Strib Langsam 4.0

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What you usually see is that, no international title on the cover (well except one of them, kind of ):


She's on Duty

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Watched too many striptease movies in the last days, eh

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What you usually see is that, no international title on the cover

In those cases the main title should be the romanized version of what you see on the cover.

The international title can only be used for the original title field, if the international title has been used at the world premiere.

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Let me try to explain from a different angle, xradman. Since much of my life these days is wrapped up in politics in Wash. D.C. You are wanting to have profiles treated differently within Region 1 because you are a native Korean. It's kind of like moving to the United States and trying to demand the population learn to speak Korean in order to communicate with you...that isn't going to happen obviously. As I have explained, were I purchasing a Region 5 Korea film, for Contribution purposes I would NOT be demanding that Region 5 users follow me, I would be following the Rules as they apply to Region 5, which means the data Contributed should be in Korean, I suspect. I would definitely keep my local data on that title in English but I would not Contribute the English data, which is what you are wanting to do here by my understanding. I am sorry but that is simply wrong-headed thinking on your part, and to make matters worse you come across as if you are PERSONALLY offended that we don't bend to your will, as you said this is a hobby roll with it and stop trying to make demands, which is the way your approach hits me. You aren't making a request, you are making a demand and expect us to bow to you on it.

If I have misjudged you, I apologize, but you have discussed this now for two years and from Day One this is how I have seen what you are saying.

Skip

Skip,

You of all person should understand the need for DVDP to serve all people. Either you haven't been getting enough sleep or you are confusing things around. I will summarize what I surmise are your misunderstandings or to clarify what I've been saying.

1. I was never personally offended. It seemed that Whispering got personally offended at the discussion thread and my proposal to include International titles. I simply said, hey take it easy, no need to get upset and personal about it.

2. I am not demanding anything. I am opening a discussion to see if we can include official International tiltle into the current database somehow. If not, then that's fine. Life will go on. I am sure Ken will eventually include this in the future.  We track practically everything.  Official international title should be at least as important.

3. I am not demanding everyone learn Korean or English. All I am proposing for discussion (that's right. this is a discussion thread. see the title at the top) is that if there is an international title (and this is often in English) for that release in local language, and there is an empty original title field (because the main title and local title are the same) then perhaps we can put that international title into the original title field (if rules would be flexible enough to allow alternate titles or recognize that official international title is also part of the original title). Proposing something and demanding something are two different things. I am not demanding that everyone go out and do what I am proposing.

4. Actually what I said 2 years ago and what I am saying now are quite different. Two or three years ago, I was asking for unicode support and stating that R3 Korean DVD should be entered in Korean. Short of that I asked that romanized titles be used in lieu of English titles.  In fact, at that time, I got quite a bit of response from you, John, and others that DVDP is an American program and if I didn't like that it was English centric, that I could go take a hike.  So here I am, proposing that international title in English be INCLUDED in the profile, and now I am getting slammed by the other point of view... How ironic  

5. So why am I bringing this up. It's simple. This new program seem like a fresh start. Gerri and Ken seem responsive to people's concern and questions. Hey, if Ken or Gerri says what we have currently and current interpretation of the rules is absolutely correct, I have no beef.

6. As others have pointed out, Korea is Region 3 for SD DVD, and Region A for Blu-ray. Yeah

Thanks for reading

Xradman:

The DVD Region Map I was dealing with was hard to decipher, but Region 3, Region 5 doesn't change the concept.

Then look to your self and how you come across. I was explaining to me how your posts have struck and I said if I have misjudged you I apologize. But that is how you are striking me. It is not for Americans to learn Korean so that they can talk to you as I noted in my analogy, and DVDProfiler is no different. You are purchasing, evidently other Region films and wanting to apply thoise standards to Region 1 data. Like I said that is just wrong-headed thinking. You CAN do what you want locally, do that and be happy.

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I am not demanding that everyone go out and do what I am proposing

Discussing it as a change to the Rules, is precisely what you are doing. If you aren't demanding that everyone do what you want them to, then you already have the power, it's your local database and you can set it up anyway you wish. You can list titles in Region 11 Mars  for all anyone cares its YOUR data, you just can't Contribute, but the Online and how the data is handled affects EVERY user and how the basic data is entered.

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Xradman:

The DVD Region Map I was dealing with was hard to decipher, but Region 3, Region 5 doesn't change the concept.

Then look to your self and how you come across. I was explaining to me how your posts have struck and I said if I have misjudged you I apologize. But that is how you are striking me. It is not for Americans to learn Korean so that they can talk to you as I noted in my analogy, and DVDProfiler is no different. You are purchasing, evidently other Region films and wanting to apply thoise standards to Region 1 data. Like I said that is just wrong-headed thinking. You CAN do what you want locally, do that and be happy.

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Also, maybe I missed this, but from what I am getting most are talking about how it shows up on the cover, but the rules say use what is used in the credits.  So what about when the credits show two titles.  Bayside Shakedown 2 international release says that on the cover.  But in the credits is shows Odoru daisousasen 2 and then changes to Bayside Shakedown 2.  So right now it is in the database as Odoru daisousasen 2 (Bayside Shakedown 2) because that is what is showed in the credits.