Sorry to bring on another poll, but here goes:

IMDB uses ' ' for nicknames, e.g. they have a main name of George 'Buck' Flower for this actor. The credit lookup tool also shows George 'Buck' Flower to be the most common name variant - it is however fair to assume that many of his credits in the database are incorrect as they have been lifted from IMDB and thus list him as George 'Buck' Flower.

He is also credited a number of different ways, the second most common (according to the credit lookup tool) is Buck Flower, and the third most common is George "Buck" Flower.

Wikipedia calls him George Buck Flower (i.e. the nickname is in italics):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Buck_Flower

Here's a pretty extensive bio/filmography where he's called George "Buck" Flower: http://www.critcononline.com/george%20buck%20flower.htm

Another filmography as George "Buck" Flower: http://www.filmreference.com/film/53/George-Buck-Flower.html

An interview/filmography where he's referred to as George 'Buck' Flower:
http://www.videovista.net/articles/buckgoff.html

A tribute website, as George "Buck" Flower: http://buckflower.com/

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As per the rules, the credit lookup tool should be the tool used to determine common names. In this case, the common name should therefore be George 'Buck' Flower, even though many of his entries with ' ' are probably incorrect. What to do?

Going by Ken's comments from yesterday HERE:

Quoting Ken Cole:

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The lookup tool is not to be blindly trusted, however it does outweigh other sources, including autographs.  The common name is not intended to always reflect the "real name", but the most commonly credited name. 

However, if a user documents errors in the database where the credit is not entered properly, that can and should be considered.  Better yet, correct the entries, assuming you own the discs in question, thereby correcting the lookup results.

so from what he said... we should consider it... but you must document that there is errors in the database... and says that the best way to handle the problem is to fix the profiles to get the look-up tool correct.

So in my opinion... just believing they are wrong because what imdb normally uses is far from documenting that they are wrong we need to go with the tool till we get enough correct in the database for it to say any different... if it actually will say anything different.

Quoting AESP_pres:

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Since his Common name in my database is George 'Buck' Flower and this is for 13 profiles

Could you please tell us which thirteen profiles these are? And are you sure your profiles are "as credited"? Not trying to be funny - I'm seriously interested. In my experience, single quotation marks are only very rarely used in actual film credits, so I'd be interested to know whether you really have thirteen profiles actually using this form of the name on-screen.

the look-up tool goes by the "Credited As" name... which per rules must be as credited in the film credits... including accents. But if you mean any type of standardizing of names no... that is not what the field is for... we use the most credited name for common name. not anything else.

The look-up tool on this site is what we are told in the rules to use.... not the one off site that you liked to.

That of course is totally your decision... but for the online database it has to be the way the rules... and Ken says... anything beyond that belongs locally only.

That is his comments from just yesterday... wouldn't be the first time he went against the majority... if it goes against how he envisions it to work.

All we can do is go by the rules and his comments till a time he changes them.

As for the poll... that is fine for showing Ken what is most wanted... and for him to decide from there... not something that would over-ride the rules. Polls never did over-ride the rules.

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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And HERE  is a poll that majority says no standardizing of names.

That was about prefixes and suffixes not about accents, which by the way is in complete contradiction with this poll.

Well it wasn't clear for me. Anyway, I now know any poll is useless to persuade Ken. It's just usefull for your own decisions or perhaps to persuade other users.