Quoting thebigbadbear:

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... What you created is an environment where I would be afraid to suggest a new feature because of the personal attacks I've just read....
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Good luck and Goodbye!

Ex-Profiler.- TheBigBadBear

This is the result of the unbearable attitude of some users who jump on every newby and flame and insult instead of trying to understand and to explain politely.

The contribution forum was the first to suffer from that attitude, but now we find it also in the technical forum and the request features forum. There is quite only the translation forum which remains friendly (guess why ?)

Quoting thebigbadbear:

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Making requests open invites debate. There should be no debate.

Absurd drivel. Of course there should be a debate.

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YOU the developer are supposed to decide what goes in the product from the requests you recieve.

Yes, and for that he should know if a certain request is supported by only one individual or a significant number of users.

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Your narrow-minded approach to profiling only DVD materials and ignoring [edit] all other movie media storage types [/edit] is a major disadvantage.

To you yes, not to the majority.

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You competitors lack this disadvantage.

Name one competitor with an online database! All I know are simple data-scrapers with all it disadvantages.

If you are more satisfied with another program, by all means use that.

cya, Mithi

Quoting thebigbadbear:

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I've just read a post where a user was stomped on by other users for his feature request.

I feel like I am one of the target in this message, so I'll tell what I think

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His request sparked a debate that was almost beside the point.  Users debating the usefulness of the request to themselves.  Debating the legality of the request.  Pointing out it's been requested before (as if that proved it was a bad idea -- if anything it proves that there's more people who want it.)

It's important to say those thing. The person who did the request isn't the only user of DVD profiler, everybody here use it and have their opinion. By the way if a sugestion sugest something illegal is value is equal to zero for me.

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Making requests open invites debate. There should be no debate.

Are we in a dictature all of sudden?

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  What you created is an environment where I would be afraid to suggest a new feature because of the personal attacks I've just read.

That's a forum on internet nobody know you, how can it be personal?

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That kind of potential for users to fear submitting ideas could keep a brilliant new idea from reaching you.

So asking for a software to do something different that it's use it's "a brilliant new idea"?

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I also have to throw in one last point: Your narrow-minded approach to profiling only DVD materials and ignoring [edit] all other movie media storage types [/edit] is a major disadvantage.  You competitors lack this disadvantage.  They can adapt to new changes in media formats without having to re-write their software.  That's bad news for you!

This is not a narrow mind approach, the name is DVD Profiler not AMFTWOWB Profiler*. That's it that's all ...

*:Any Movie Format That Was Or Will Be Profiler

I did not like the "Hell No!" type of attitude which the Facebook Feature Request thread received. Some people have mighty big stomping boots for something they don't want themselves, and fail to see how others would want a feature. It can be selfish sometimes. But we should measure the popularity of each feature request so the developer can devote their time and energy to what the most people would want.

The benefit of having a public forum for feature requests, is people can build on each others' suggestions and get something which can actually work nicely. It's just a shame when the suggestions are stomped on by those who don't see the need for such a feature.

Quoting thebigbadbear:

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There should be no debate.

I'd like to debate that.

Okay, I really did not intend to post again.  But you all (with the exception of the lovely miss surfeur51) have completely missed the POINT!

So please try to open your minds and re-read my first post in this thread again and again and again until you get the actual point.  Because so far your replies have been self-serving, pointless and off-topic because you did not understand the point being made.  In fact, most of the contributers to this thread seem to be the worst offenders on the board.

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Skipnet50, You are offender numero-uno!  This forum would be well served by you limiting yourself to no more than one post per day per thread.  Why?  Because last time I checked they still call the product "DVD profiler" as you're so fond of pointing out.  It's certainly not called "Skip's Profiler" so I wonder who gave you the right to pounce all over everyone else's contributions to the forum?  Read some of your own posts and realize it's not contributing in any way to the continued existence or development of this product!  (BTW, I HAVE used this product.  I banged my head against Profiler's inadequecies and flaws before finding something that worked with far less hassle and fuss.)

Quoting AESP_pres:

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Are we in a dictature all of sudden?

Yes, it's called a private company!  The developers may be letting you lot run amuck and think you have some real input.  But at the end of the day the developer tallies the requests and decides what's feasible, reasonable, and marketable.  All your hot air and petty attacks on users do nothing but make Profiler users look bad.  (It shows you for the BULLIES that you are!)

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Long story short.  There is something very rotten in this forum.  If the admins can't see that, they are blind or non-existent.  Nothing short of a campaign -- a pure show of force (bannings, deletions, locking, warnings, acceptable use bulletins) will clean up this forum.  If this kind of campaign isn't undertaken -- you may as well get rid of the forum.  Because it's become stagnant.  Instead of breeding ground for the sharing of ideas and discussion, it has become a grade school recess bully-fest.

If you folks can't get my point now, you're really and truly a lost cause!

Sincerely,
- TheBigBadBear

P.S. If there are any admins and they actually care anymore what goes on here, this thread should either end up locked or deleted and my user account should vanish.  (Consider my posts a test if you will.)  If this post still exists next week, then you folks will know exactly how unimportant you are currently to Invelos!  Let's face it, I know I've been rude.  I've been downright nasty to a couple users.  But I really think you all needed the collective slap in the face.

Bear:

You are hopeless. Three posts and all of them nasty. Get over yourself, sir. I could make some constructive suggestions for you but i would be wasting my time.

Skip

Quoting DariusKyrak:

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AESP_pres, I don't really understand why you thought the comment was directed at you, but I think that a lot of the comments in the thread were out of place.

Stuart

Because I was one of the last to post a comment in the thread that she was refered too and I didn't see that she have made a post there.