It's my understanding that only individual credits with valid titles (Visual/Digital/Special/Special Visual Effects, including Designer, Supervisor, and Director, and Special Photographic Effects) are valid credits. I've had to remove several mass-credited groups of VFX credits for this reason. Captain Marvel is the latest example. There were several VFX groups that had the name of the company (Digital Domain, for an example not necessarily from this movie), then a whole bunch of people listed after that. No indication whatsoever what their job title or what they did for the company...just names. Those are not valid credits. For all I know, the DD office cleaning crew could be among those names. Thoughts?

Agreed. Masses of employes without job description do not qualify for listing.

Agreed me too. No no job description or personal credit --> no valid credit

I'm one of the guilty parties for entering those groups of names. I will no longer do that and when I run into the ones I have done, I will fix them, if someone already hasn't, and resubmit for approval.

Quoting Lowpro:

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Now wait a second.  I was on the cleaning crew for that film.  I bust my you know what so the A-listers could just focus on playing make pretend.  So now I don't get credit? j/k

You'll have to get Ken to add a category for Visual Effects Cleaning Crew. Oh, wait, he has become invisible!!!

Since this thread was used to justify the removal of (still) valid entries, I'd like to reference the according polls...

There was a thread in the rules forum with the intention to invalidate these entries, but the response was negative:



This was affirmed in in this forum: A valid poll allows this type of credit. Back then all information including the remarkable wording "Individual credits" was available; nothing relevant changed.

Although I voted No back then, per the rules any individual credits are still valid!

Quoting T!M:

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And indeed, a couple of posts up you wrote: "Agreed. Masses of employes without job description do not qualify for listing." Those were wise words, and you were absolutely right.

... my personal opinion and I stick with it. But the rejected trial to clarify the rules in that direction can't be ignored...

I won't add them to a profile personally, but as I judge them as valid, I refuse the removal and count them for common name threads.

If you do a little more research on those groups, most of the time 95% of the names in those list are visual effects artists which we don't list when they're listed as such. Not knowing what they have really done I agree to not list those groups.

The same for Special Effects which have a similar problem. Most of the time the people listed under special effects are just Special Effects Technicians. But unfortunately the majority still wants to list those special effects groups.