I really have no idea on this, I'd just like them to link obviously so I tend to lean towards your 4th option North 

It would be good to hear from some of our Asian members to see how they feel this is best handled, as one would 'expect' their collections would hold more titles as a percentage with these cast/crew credits

What about As Credited do you NOT comprehend, there is a reason for it, north


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That idea will of course still remain.

The question only is, which option will create more profiles to use the Credited As function.

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We havea program change that allows for the handling of this now...Doh!!!! It doesn't change the basic premise

IMHO, the program change did change the basic premise: we moved away from the ridiculously silly notion to blindly enter all data exactly "as credited", which ultimately led to an absolutely useless database. A quick glance through the database using the credit lookup feature will also show that the vast majority of users never bothered with "as credited", and who can blame 'em? I consider the decision to move away from this, in favour of having correct "names" while still retaining what's actually on screen in the "credited as" field, a very wise one, and yes, I do see that as a change to the basic premise. I'd have thought you'd realized all this by now.

Anyway - IMHO that makes northbloke's issue entirely valid: we are going to have to decide on a way to link various appearances of Chinese/HK names together. A year ago, you could answer such questions with "as credited", leading to endless double, or even triple entries for the same actors. Presently, that answer isn't valid anymore. If you don't want to participate, no problem, but just coming here to post "as credited!"doesn't help at all, really.

[edit: removed certain bits of my post because I just don't know enough about Chinese/HK names]

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[never mind: I just don't know enough about Chinese/HK names]

I saw your post and you actually had it quite right...

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What you fail to comprehend is that As credited remains the foundation for everything, if As credited is not done coirrectly to begin with, then Credited AS will NEVER function properly.

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I comprehend that perfectly. But you need to comprehend that it really is a major program change. Saying that nothing has changed with regards to "as credited" is utter nonsense. Again: a year ago we were just after verbatim copies of the end credits. The end result was data that was completely useless to everyone - that is probably why basically nobody bothered with it. We might as well have stored the credits as a series of JPEGS: 100% accurate, but of no use to anyone at all.

Now, we actually track who worked on what film. IMHO, that's a major shift of focus, and I still haven't really see you acknowledge that. To accomplish this, we need to establish a common "name" for each and every cast/crew member. IMHO, that's the single most important issue in the DVD Profiler at the moment, and it will be for quite some time - until most profiles are updated and the "credited as" database has a few thousand names, I imagine. This thread is about a specific aspect of this issue, and therefore it's entirely valid. Coming here to just post "as credited!" and go on to insult the intelligence of other users isn't helpful at all.

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You are talking about an alias system which is not a fundamental change, it is infcat somehing we have all been pushing for an waiting impatiently for , for along time. It does NOT represent a fundamental change in the program, but you think it does, fINE. think that it does.

Thanks, I will. And if you really still think that "as credited" is the best answer to northbloke's original post, then I'm pretty much convinced that I'm right about it, too. 

No simple, Achim. I don't think there is a valid look-up tool ofr this particular problem. I would not say our look-up follows IMDb, I hope not, it should find information that is based on the film credits. Iknow what the basic rule for Oriental names is, but unfortunately it does not aplly across the board and is something that easily translatable into an easy to use statement of Rule. there are exceptions all over the place. So I would say the BEST answer falls to the old reliable documentation, let's get it RIGHT. Let's take a well known example Chow Yun Fat, now how does that work ( trying to speak as someone just looking at the data and not necessarily real familiar with culutral issue) based on that credit is Fat Chow Yun or Yun Fat chow, now if my memory serves it is really Yun-Fat Chow, but based on the presentation of the data in Hollywood format of Chow Yun Fat, there is nothing there that will help a novice or uninformed user come up with a correct answer.

So, those that would go that way simply need to provide the doc to back it up, whatever it is. Saying I am chinese and I know is not acceptable. I will come back and say you are Chinese but you don't KNOW Mr. Chow, in short as I always say don't make assumptions and remember you are communicating with 500,000+ users, some who WILL be familiar with the issue but likely far more who will not that well versed in it.

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