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I'd prefer that the top-billed (whether from the opening or first section of end credits) go first if the main block is arranged either alphabetically or in order of appearance.  It always annoys me that the guy who did the voice of the Ring (which you can barely make out) is the top-billed actor in the LOTR movies according to DVDP.

Gee, maybe because they're listed in order of appearance.

And where exactly did he appear?

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Yeah... I remember a couple different feature requests to count the times an actor is on each disc not count just once per profile. I am hoping we will get it before too long.

Yikes. I consider this to be great as-is. On the PDA, you get one listing per entry and it's awful when someone's in a TV series.

I wish the PDA method were changed to match the desktop method. If people want the multiple listings per actor, I hope we get a choice. I would hate to have, for example, 120 listings of Keifer Sutherland for 24. Once per season is enough for me.

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I can see both sides of the argument. And if you focus is only on Richard Dean Anderson in Stargate oo MacGyver there is something to be said for your argument. But let's say we want to see Carol burnett in two appearances in Magnum PI or some other guest star in some other show. Now the search function becomes a broad sword instead of a scalpel and is not really of much help.

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To be able to further refine the data, Paul. Which Episode(s) did the actor appear, not simply which disc.

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To be able to further refine the data, Paul. Which Episode(s) did the actor appear, not simply which disc.

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The system does not work that way, we do not have episode level profiles. There is nothing that will show what episode an actor is in while using a search, unless you add an episode number to each role and if you do keep it local!

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Imagine Hal's nightmare scenario of MASH: Martinis and Medicine. 275 Cast and crew lists with the Master profile and you want to know about Robert Alda's appearance in MASH, you will get TWO hits, now which of those 275 was he in.  Now lets go to Child level with the same show, you will get the same two hits but now you at least know which season he appeared, but there is still roughly 30 shows per Season, now we can go to Grandchild and get to the disc level so now we can find out which Disc he is on, but the search is not refined enough yet to reveal which Episode he was in. That's why.

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There's just... so much wrong with this. For one thing, an eleven-season set would NEVER have any credit information in the parent; the only way this would be there is if it was put there locally, and so it clearly isn't a problem for whomever the user might be.

And with this particular set, since it's the old disc ID conflict with season/disc 1 profile, you wouldn't get season-level child, with 25-odd (not 30) sets of credits; you'd get disc level credits as they are in the DB. Quite frankly, if you're after one guy and you're too lazy to click to the disc you find him on and scan the cast list for maybe eight episodes, you really don't deserve to find what you're looking for. After all, if you're desperate to watch it, what's an extra double click and a little scrolling next to browsing your collection for the disc and manhandling such a big set anyway?

It's one thing to ask for a more refined search, but to claim that you want it because the current system doesn't allow you the information you want is ridiculous.

Apart from anything else, if you were looking by - which presumably would be the easiest option for the given scenario - using the cast filter, when you tick the name you want in the filter list, you'll now find it it to be highlighted in the cast window for the profile, likewise for crew, you don't even need to read the list, your eyes are taken straight to it.

Again, more refined search - sure, if it's feasible, and not messy, and Ken deals with the more important issues first, why not? But let's not pretend that the existing methods are too difficult, unclear or time consuming. And CERTAINLY let's not resort to hyperbole, unlikely examples and direct misinformation to try and add weight to a meandering point.

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Imagine Hal's nightmare scenario of MASH: Martinis and Medicine. 275 Cast and crew lists with the Master profile and you want to know about Robert Alda's appearance in MASH, you will get TWO hits, now which of those 275 was he in.  Now lets go to Child level with the same show, you will get the same two hits but now you at least know which season he appeared, but there is still roughly 30 shows per Season, now we can go to Grandchild and get to the disc level so now we can find out which Disc he is on, but the search is not refined enough yet to reveal which Episode he was in. That's why.

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There's just... so much wrong with this. For one thing, an eleven-season set would NEVER have any credit information in the parent; the only way this would be there is if it was put there locally, and so it clearly isn't a problem for whomever the user might be.

And with this particular set, since it's the old disc ID conflict with season/disc 1 profile, you wouldn't get season-level child, with 25-odd (not 30) sets of credits; you'd get disc level credits as they are in the DB. Quite frankly, if you're after one guy and you're too lazy to click to the disc you find him on and scan the cast list for maybe eight episodes, you really don't deserve to find what you're looking for. After all, if you're desperate to watch it, what's an extra double click and a little scrolling next to browsing your collection for the disc and manhandling such a big set anyway?

It's one thing to ask for a more refined search, but to claim that you want it because the current system doesn't allow you the information you want is ridiculous.

Apart from anything else, if you were looking by - which presumably would be the easiest option for the given scenario - using the cast filter, when you tick the name you want in the filter list, you'll now find it it to be highlighted in the cast window for the profile, likewise for crew, you don't even need to read the list, your eyes are taken straight to it.

Again, more refined search - sure, if it's feasible, and not messy, and Ken deals with the more important issues first, why not? But let's not pretend that the existing methods are too difficult, unclear or time consuming. And CERTAINLY let's not resort to hyperbole, unlikely examples and direct misinformation to try and add weight to a meandering point.

Is this a joke? It ceratinly reads like one, or someone with out any understanding. Nadja. You were one of thse that i believe said you wanted all the Cast and Crew data for TV with the Parent. Well guess what, MASH: Martinis and Medicine IS the parent (if you purchased it in that form, which i didn't), MASH Season One and so on would be CHILDREN. So for you claim "For one thing, an eleven-season set would NEVER have any credit information in the parent" is flat hypocritical. What it tells ME is that you finally discovered what I saw LOOOOONG ago and decide you didn't like the answer. I call it being gored by your own bull.

Now you have also chosen to pick an argument with me. Did I say something that leads you to believe that i am in favor of a particualr position one way or the other. I don't believe I did. There ARE many users, however, who want this feature...who the hell are you to even suggest that they are wrong. It does NOT impact data entry in any way, which is my primary concern. I frankly have no idea whther i would find such a feature useful, but I sure as hell am not so presumptious as to suggest, since search responds to data entry and does not dictate it, that the users that want it are wrong and shouldn't be able to get the result from a search that best serves them. This is also a purely local matter, it in NO WAY impacts the Online in even the remotest form.

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It doesn't change the hypocrisy, unicus.

They wanted it UNTIL they discovered that is wasn't really viable, but instead of saying OK we were wrong, they cocncocted a solution which was inconsistent and hypocritical.

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